2+2=5 sorry to here that about your family circumstances. no 2+2=5 i wasnt suggesting that bitterness is the only reason thats why I put if up for debate but bitterness could be a reason for some. Im trying to define how we differentiate cult status as applied to a religion, and expanding the debate. Thanks again for your input
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Cult or Religion
by Richard C B inwhat is a cult and what is a religion?
its open to debate.
who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?
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Cult or Religion
by Richard C B inwhat is a cult and what is a religion?
its open to debate.
who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?
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Yes excellent point Cofty. I see what your saying there about the "groupthink" scenario.
There is a negative conitation in your reasoning about "groupthink" or unity of thinking. This is not always the case. Can you expand your reasoning to apply that to religion
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Cult or Religion
by Richard C B inwhat is a cult and what is a religion?
its open to debate.
who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?
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@punkofnice ok, but what led up to your personal conclusion? if you dont mind me asking. -
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by Richard C B inwhat is a cult and what is a religion?
its open to debate.
who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?
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2+2=5,, I think you missed the point of the topic, but thanks for your input -
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Cult or Religion
by Richard C B inwhat is a cult and what is a religion?
its open to debate.
who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?
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@ cofty, Every religion has cultish features. Every member gives up some measure of intellectual freedom in order to be part of the group.
Yes i agree with you but this principle could be applied to none religious pursuits.
What about a professional footballer for example, he would have to give up certain freedoms to be part of the team and be governed by rules I.E he would have to abstain from over excesses and stick to fitness regime. we could say then this has cultish features.
@ punkenice I agree with you its very much an individual choice so your point that the watchtower is dangerous and delusional is conflicting with your point.
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Cult or Religion
by Richard C B inwhat is a cult and what is a religion?
its open to debate.
who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?
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What is a cult and what is a religion? Its open to debate. Who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion? I think that the individual creates the cult status in his or hers mind from personal experience and how that particular person has allowed themselves to be conditioned and how they have personally interpreted how the religion has had an impact on there life over a period of time. The cult status is only evident to them when they leave that said religion and become resentful and regret choices they have made because at the time they made decisions which may have been greatly influenced by there beliefs. Or someone may after leaving that said religion, on bad terms, have an axe to grind and go out of there way to convince themselves and others its a cult.
Just throwing it out there maybe my opinion is wrong I dont know but what do you guys think?
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Ebay Idiot
by slimboyfat inwho is this ebay idiot who keeps trying to sell "undisclosed rare watchtower items" for ridiculous sums of money?.
http://cgi.ebay.com/extremely-rare-watchtower-jehovahs-witness-collectible_w0qqitemz4622536407qqcategoryz378qqrdz1qqcmdzviewitem.
http://cgi.ebay.com/jws-watchtower-related-pyramidology-collectible-oddity_w0qqitemz4622460580qqcategoryz378qqrdz1qqcmdzviewitem.
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haha I dont understand why you have an issue with this. Are you jealous or something? I knew a brother once who got a load of old books from an old sister, who was having a clear out, and among the books were some old Judge Rutherfood books he sold them on an auction site for a tidy sum. I didnt have a problem with that. -
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Apostate views?
by Richard C B inif a brother is starting to look at material on the internet and starts to have serious doubts about the jw organisation and questions the integrity of the governing body.
what steps would be taken to by the congregation to readjust his thinking.
and also if the congregation is not aware of this but he has confided in an individual how would that individual try to help such a brother?.
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@driving force... not wanting to get off the subject here but what is Gods name then? -
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Apostate views?
by Richard C B inif a brother is starting to look at material on the internet and starts to have serious doubts about the jw organisation and questions the integrity of the governing body.
what steps would be taken to by the congregation to readjust his thinking.
and also if the congregation is not aware of this but he has confided in an individual how would that individual try to help such a brother?.
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@stuckin... interesting point about motives. Maybe he is looking for a way out to justify himself. hence being not accountable to anyone. That could be the real issue behind it. -
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Apostate views?
by Richard C B inif a brother is starting to look at material on the internet and starts to have serious doubts about the jw organisation and questions the integrity of the governing body.
what steps would be taken to by the congregation to readjust his thinking.
and also if the congregation is not aware of this but he has confided in an individual how would that individual try to help such a brother?.
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@ ABIBLESTUDENT thanks for the input. maybe getting off the topic slightly?